9/15/2010 11:27:12 PM
cnypen
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A person who has Member Administrator Role only has visibility to the directory. They do not have visibility to any of the other tabs that show up for Administrator Role on the Membership page(Roles, Committees, Statuses, Classes, Position or Awards). They should have access to view these and to add members to these groups when needed.
Corey
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9/16/2010 7:39:12 AM
Jennifer
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Corey,
The general membership has the "Membership Role" and is only able to view the members and edit their own profile, correct. It is the Administrator's role to have total access and tabs. You will want to limit the number of people who have this access...it is generally the President, Web Admin, VP Comm & her assistant. If you will look back through the thread of this topic, you will find a document "What are Member Roles?" (or something similiar) posted by Kimberly around January, 2010. That helped me tremendously in determining who should have what access and what each role's function is and what they have access to. If you want to look at that and if you want, get back with me, and I can tell you which Position I have assigned to each role, if that would help. Good Luck!!! Jennifer
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9/16/2010 8:02:31 AM
cnypen
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Hi Jennifer,
I am commenting the new "Membership Administrator" role. It has full permissions to add/create/delete members like the Administrator role but does not have the visibility to the multiple tabs on the membership page. Access to these tabs would be something that a "Membership Administrator" would need for their job. Currently our VP of Membership needs full Administrator role to have access to the tabs other then the Directory on the membership page.
Corey
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9/16/2010 9:17:20 AM
Kimberly
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Hi Corey & Jennifer-
Corey is from Boys Team Charity, which does have a "Member Admin Role" which does allow this person to update member information.
The reason we do not have this included for all NCL's is explained below:
The reason why there isn't a "Member Admin role" (for NCL's and YMSL's) is because technically these people who are in this role would also have permissions to update themselves (thus elevating their own permissions if they wanted and given them full access to the site). There really isn't a way to have a "Member Admin" who can add, delete, edit members but not edit themselves. Even if we did create a Member Admin they could still update their own permission levels to Administrator, we cannot block them from doing so if they have member editing capabilities.
We could block sub navigation items but the same things that can be done in these items can be done in the profile itself (or most of them). For example the "Roles" sub navigation item allows Administrators to add people to certain roles, but if you edit a member profile you can do the same. So, in BTC's case we do block them from seeing sub nav items, but they can still accomplish the same thing (adding a person to a role, etc.) if they wanted to. The only thing they couldn't do is add new roles.
We've thought long (and had many talks) regarding this role. So far for us it hasn't made sense to create this for all organizations, given that the Member Admin really has full permissions to the site if they wanted it anyway. In fact they have permissions to add anyone into any role and elevate anyone's permissions on the site.
If either of you (or anyone else) has any feedback on rolling this out to other organizations using ChapterWeb, that would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you!
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Kimberly
ChapterWeb Support
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9/21/2010 8:21:52 AM
cnypen
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btc would like to have the tabs on the members page accessible to someone who has a Membership Administrator role. Not having access to the tabs was the first complaint when they thier ids where changed from Admin to Membership. They often have to generate list of members and these tabs are the easist way to accomplish their job. With the tabs they also have the ability to move or change groups of people without going into each members profile to change them individually. We understand that that a Membership Administrator has the capability to change their own profile but they should not have to do that to accomplish the duties that define their role.
Corey
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9/21/2010 10:29:28 AM
Kimberly
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Hi Corey,
I've created a request for all BTC chapters to have these sub navigation items added back to the Membership Admin role.
Thank you,
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Kimberly
ChapterWeb Support
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